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  1. #1
    afrim Guest

    belt lifetime

    More of 25 years I have been following lifetime of 108 belt in exploitations in different conditions.
    Belt width (B) -650-2000 mm
    Belt length(L) -50-1600 m
    Belt speed (v) 1.12-4 m/s
    Lift angle( a) 0-16 o
    Impact (h) 0.4-1.6 m
    ht- Time work index
    hq- capacity index
    K1-dependet from quality of rubber covert.
    Mathematic method used is regression and correlation.
    Finally , the empiric formula for approximate calculation of belt lifetime:



    T =(0.6*B*(L/vH)1/3 ) /hthq*K1….K8 ………( years)

    Probability is 76% for interval (± 10%)
    92% for interval (±15%)
    98% for interval (± 20%)

    Please your comments.

    Best regards Mr.Afrim Dushi
    e-mail :afrimbd@hotmail.com
    15.11.2002
    Prishtina,Kosovo (EX-Yu)

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    Lawrence K. Nordell

    Lawrence K. Nordell

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    Belt Wear Life

    Afrim:

    Its is a subject that needs more dialog. However, some critical points are not referenced in your list such as:

    1. Lump Size
    2. Lump Shape( sharpness; abrasive index, or similar measure)
    3. Lump distribution by size
    4. Ore density
    5. Ore velocity at impact on belt
    6. Ore direction at impact on belt
    7. Chute geometry and ore flow direction at impact (5 & 6)
    8. Cohesive and adhesive rheology ( Wet, sticky; dry...)
    9. Feed speed of ore into chute and its fall distance
    10. Change in direction of ore flow or asymmetric behavior
    11. Characterization of skirt zone on ore turbulence
    12. Belt cover thickness
    13. Belt resilience ........ Steel cord, nylon, polysester weave

    Can you expand upon your study for us to see the sensitivities?


    All these points can be used to quanitified belt life using Discrete Element Method (DEM) technology. See our website for some illustrated examples of chute flow and analysis:
    www.conveyor-dynamics.com More to come soon.

    DEM was used to extend the life of the Palabora belt from 3 years (standard rockbox) to estimated 30 years (curved chute spoon) by small change to chute design. Crusher liners, drill bits, shovel teeth,etc. no longer puncture the belt. It has now been in operation for almost 9 years with little sign of wear. Palabora conveyor specifications are:

    1. Belt width ................ 1800 mm
    2. Speed ...................... 4.1 m/s
    3. Capacity .................. 6000 t/h nominal
    4. Belt length ............... 1130 m
    5. Lumps size .............. 300 mm max and moderately sharp
    6. Product .................... Primary crushed copper ore (carbonotite)
    7. Ore Density .............. 1600 kq/cm (bulk) ; dry
    8. Conveyor slope ........ 15.5 degrees
    9. Drop distance ........... 3 m discharge belt feeder to belt
    10. Belt steel cord ........ ST-6600 N/mm; 18x9 mm covers
    11. Belt abrasive index <100 (DIN) covers
    12 Items you mentioned that we can quantify

    PLease tell us your expected life estimation with the formula. It will be helpful to see all input parameters.

    Progress in Sharing,

    Lawrence Nordell
    Conveyor Dynamics, Inc.

  3. Dear Mr. Afrim,

    Does your study cover belts carrying hot material as well or is it limited only to study of wear characteristics ?

    If heat resistant belts have not been covered, are you working on establishing a similar empirical formula for such applications ?

  4. #4
    afrim Guest

    explications

    This formula is for general conditions and normal belt application. Factor K1 defines the influence of rubber kality.For example.
    Cover thiknes,mm K1
    < 3 1
    < 5 1.3
    < 8 1.6
    Tensil strength,Mpa K1
    15-18 0.85
    18-22 1
    22-26 1.3
    For heat resistance belt
    Temp. 60oC 125 oC 160 oC
    1 0.55 0.2

  5. Belt Lifetime

    Dear Afrim Dushi

    In general, belt life can be calculated on 2 aspects:

    1. Belt covers wear life.
    2. Belt fabric fatigue life / time (aging) life.

    The belt life will be minimum of above two ( issues such as edge wear due to misaligning running, abnormal deterioration due to unfavourable environment etc. are additional issues).

    The belt cover wear life can be calculated as per formulae / method given in Contitech Germany publication (there may be formulae by other manufacturers also). The leading belt manufacturers will certainly be calculating fatigue life / aging life of fabric. Only they will be in a position to say on this aspect. In general, this information is not available from belt manufacturers published literature.

    Broadly saying fatigue life should include belt bending, lump impact etc.

    Regards
    Ishwar G Mulani - Author, Book - Engineering Science and Application Designs on Belt Conveyors
    EmailID: parimul@pn2.vsnl.net.in

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    H.tayebi Guest

    belt changing time

    Dear nordel

    We have 9 belt conveyors that handling wood chips sinse 5 years ago. I want to now when we should change the conveyor belt?. In other words when a conveyor belt is unusable? is amount of cover wear is rule of change the belt? for example when your boiler tube thickness become A (one number) you should change the tube.
    tank you very much
    my e-mail adress is HTSOUD@yahoo.com

  7. While we are talking about belt wear, I would like to pose a question about the wear profile on belts. I know for example that this is very pronounced in the downstream end of iron ore operations that I am familiar with. Surprisingly, when I was discussing this with a leading expert in the field of conveyor belts, he was not aware of the phenomenon. So it seems that is not ubiqitous.

    The wear profile reflects the idler configuration. For example, in a 4 idler configuration there is a high spot in the middle. In a three idler configuration, there is a low spot in the middle.

    I would be interested to hear views on this phenomenon. Do people in any other industies see this phenomenon? Has anyone got a belt with different idler configurations along its length?

    The wear profile in the belts I referred to above does not mirror the transfer chute geometry. If it did, one would expect to see a distinct band that is of the same width as the chute discharge. This is not the case.

    In a correlation of years of data on about 70 of these belts, my conclusion was that the main indicator of wear was the elevation from the loading point to the discharge, when other factors such as tonnage and belt length were normalised. The energy involved in this elevation is considerably greater than that involved in the acceleration at the transfer chutes.

    I do not think it is feasible to correlate all belt wear into a single formula. I think the wear mechanisms are diverse and to a large extent indeterminate. These are complex phenomena.

    Even with a single ore type and a barrage of laboratory tests it is a very difficult task to correlate any measure of wear with any laboratory measurement of belt parameters, which incidentally change over time according to the environment.

    I remain a heretic in the matter of deterministic prediction of belt wear in all but the narrowest of applications.

  8. Belt wear life

    Dear sirs,

    I should be interesting to hear what is the true life time of differents typical applications in working hours.

    My experience is that the manufacturer of rubber belts tell that the life time is very long (i.e about 50,000 hours for belts with steel cord in open cast lignite mines). On the other side the users need mainly a big maintenance team which indicates that they have to repair the belts all the time. As example, the maintenance managers of crushers or surface miners tell that the average life time of these very short belts is less than 1,000 working hours. Sometime they have to repair it after only 50 hours.

    Apparently it is very difficult to know what is the real life time of the belts. A mathematic approch is interesting in order to determinate the right belt but don't provide a real prediction of the belt life time. If you want to help the users give them an overview of the reality with examples.

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    Lawrence K. Nordell

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    Dear Peter,

    I give a plausible explanation to your 3 and 4 roll idler configuration wear behaviors.

    On a 3 roll set, the flow impact hard spots are at the mid roll center where the high flow force impacts the belt and where elastic custioning is minimum. Also, on the lower third of the wing roll length, there is a hard spotthat will regisiter high relative wear.

    One a 4 roll set the vee center, between wing roll sets, is more flexible providing cushioning and therefore less wear with respect to the 3 roll set. The hard zones are on the two lower wing idlers.

    Always willing to learn,

    Lawrence Nordell
    www.conveyor-dynamics.com

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    Lawrence K. Nordell

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    IMr Jakob,

    I do not understand the relavance of hours in operation as opposed to cycle of loading. A long belt (10000m) the cycles of loading may be less than one per hour. A short belt (100m) may have 100 times that many per hour. There is a 100 times difference in the expected load station cycle repairs. At 50 hours between repairs (every two days) of the shorter belt is about one repair per year on the longer belts.

    This is not rocket science. However, as I have commented many times, the chute design is the major key to longer life and minimal repairs. Get it right and a new standard of wear and puncture life becomes the norm.

    I
    Lawrence Nordell
    www.conveyor-dynamics.com

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